{"id":1133,"date":"2017-12-23T21:53:04","date_gmt":"2017-12-23T20:53:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/?p=1133"},"modified":"2017-12-31T10:50:49","modified_gmt":"2017-12-31T09:50:49","slug":"dl-1000-som-antenntrad-hur-stora-blir-forlusterna-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/?p=1133","title":{"rendered":"DL-1000 som antenntr\u00e5d. Hur stora blir f\u00f6rlusterna?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>DL-1000, som \u00e4r f\u00f6rsvarets telefontr\u00e5d best\u00e5r av 7 kardeler. 4 f\u00f6rtennta koppartr\u00e5dar och 3 f\u00f6rzinkade st\u00e5ltr\u00e5dar och ett isolerande h\u00f6lje. Den \u00e4r popul\u00e4r som antenntr\u00e5d. Fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r hur den st\u00e5r sig mot FK 1,5 n\u00e4r det g\u00e4ller f\u00f6rluster p\u00e5 kortv\u00e5g.<\/p>\n<p>I simuleringsprogrammet MMANA kan man v\u00e4lja material i antennledarna. Skillnaden i materialf\u00f6rluster mellan koppar- och st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d uppg\u00e5r till \u00f6ver 3 dB f\u00f6r en 20m-dipol.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r att g\u00f6ra en praktisk m\u00e4tning monterades en dipol f\u00f6r 14 MHz med mitten 7 meter \u00f6ver mark och \u00e4ndarna n\u00e5gon meter l\u00e4gre. En MINI VNA ansl\u00f6ts till den 37 meter l\u00e5nga koaxialkabeln av typ RG 213 och kabell\u00e4ngden simulerades bort. Dock simuleras kabeln som f\u00f6rlustfri.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6rutom FK 1,5 testades 1 mm plastbelagd mjuk st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d, som anv\u00e4nds i tr\u00e4dg\u00e5rden.<\/p>\n<p>Matningsimpedansen m\u00e4ttes vid resonanspunkten n\u00e4r den var rent resistiv.<\/p>\n<p>Resultat:<\/p>\n<p>Impedans ohm<\/p>\n<p>FK 1,5\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 53<\/p>\n<p>DL 1000\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 64,7<\/p>\n<p>St\u00e5ltr\u00e5d\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 74,2<\/p>\n<p>Allts\u00e5 en extra f\u00f6rlustresistans p\u00e5 11,7 ohm f\u00f6r DL 1000 och 21,2 ohm f\u00f6r st\u00e5ltr\u00e5den. Det motsvarar 18 % eller 0,85 dB extra effektf\u00f6rlust f\u00f6r DL 1000 och 28,6 % eller 2,3 dB f\u00f6r st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nu har jag simulerat vad som h\u00e4nder med en LW p\u00e5 100 meter p\u00e5 14 MHz:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>N\u00e4r jag m\u00e4tte p\u00e5 en dipol \u00f6kade matningsimpedansen med ca 12 ohm n\u00e4r jag anv\u00e4nde DL1000 i st\u00e4llet f\u00f6r FK 1,5. Det betyder att ett f\u00f6rlustmotst\u00e5nd p\u00e5 12 ohm ligger i serie med matningsimpedansen f\u00f6r koppartr\u00e5d.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d var motsvarande f\u00f6rlustmotst\u00e5nd 21 ohm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jag lade d\u00e5 motsvarande f\u00f6rlustmotst\u00e5nd i alla str\u00f6mbukar p\u00e5 l\u00e5ngwiren. Man kan ju se den som 10 seriekopplade halv\u00e5gsdipoler.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Resultatet blev att en 100 meters longwire p\u00e5 14 MHz med DL1000 har 1,6 dB s\u00e4mre f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkning \u00e4n en LW av FK !,5 och en longwire av st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d har 2,26 dB s\u00e4mre f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkning.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r en halvv\u00e5gsdipol var motsvarande f\u00f6rluster 0,85 respektive 2,3 dB.<\/p>\n<p>Ju l\u00e4ngre antennen \u00e4r desto viktigare med bra material i tr\u00e5den (och givetetvis l\u00e5ga f\u00f6rluster i marken).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I siffror: Gain Cu = 10,7 dBi, Gain DL1000 = 9,13 dBi och Gain st\u00e5ltr\u00e5d = 8,44 dBi.<\/p>\n<p>Det senare resultatet \u00f6verensst\u00e4mmer inte med vad man f\u00e5r om man v\u00e4ljer st\u00e5l som material i antenntr\u00e5den i MMANA. D\u00e5 blir Gain = 7,1 dBi dvs 3,63 dB s\u00e4mre \u00e4n med koppar. Samma sak g\u00e4ller f\u00f6r halv\u00e5gsdipoler.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Som j\u00e4mf\u00f6relse har en 3 elements monobander en f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkning av ca 12 till 13 dBi.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Om tr\u00e5dl\u00e4ngden \u00f6kas till ca 200 meter \u00f6kar f\u00f6rst\u00e4rkningen:<\/p>\n<p>Gain Cu = 12,16 dBi, Gain DL1000 = 10,18 dBi<\/p>\n<p>dvs ytterligare 1,43 (Cu) respektive 1,05 dB (DL1000)<\/p>\n<p>Med Kopparlina:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1158\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-300x123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"123\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-768x314.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-1024x419.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-624x255.jpg 624w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_koppartr\u00e5d_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder.jpg 1328w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Med en tr\u00e5d fr\u00e5n DL1000:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1157\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-300x117.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"117\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-300x117.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-768x299.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-1024x398.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder-624x243.jpg 624w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/LW_med_DL1000_14MHz_10_v\u00e5gl\u00e4ngder.jpg 1321w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DL-1000, som \u00e4r f\u00f6rsvarets telefontr\u00e5d best\u00e5r av 7 kardeler. 4 f\u00f6rtennta koppartr\u00e5dar och 3 f\u00f6rzinkade st\u00e5ltr\u00e5dar och ett isolerande h\u00f6lje. Den \u00e4r popul\u00e4r som antenntr\u00e5d. Fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r hur den st\u00e5r sig mot FK 1,5 n\u00e4r det g\u00e4ller f\u00f6rluster p\u00e5 kortv\u00e5g. I simuleringsprogrammet MMANA kan man v\u00e4lja material i antennledarna. Skillnaden i materialf\u00f6rluster mellan koppar- och [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1133","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1133","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1133"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1133\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1161,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1133\/revisions\/1161"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1133"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1133"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1133"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}