{"id":254,"date":"2015-02-23T23:17:26","date_gmt":"2015-02-23T22:17:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/SM0BRF\/wordpress-3.9.1-sv_SE\/wordpress\/?p=254"},"modified":"2016-02-19T19:29:00","modified_gmt":"2016-02-19T19:29:00","slug":"reciprocitet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/?p=254","title":{"rendered":"Reciprocitet?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ibland upplever jag att det inte \u00e4r samma signalstyrka i b\u00e5da \u00e4ndar av en f\u00f6rbindelse. Det har till exempel varit vid kontakter med Japan p\u00e5 17 m d\u00e4r jag under en period, har f\u00e5tt flera S-enheter b\u00e4ttre rapporter \u00e4n vad jag kunnat ge. En stund senare har f\u00f6rh\u00e5llandena utj\u00e4mnats och mer rimliga rapporter har utv\u00e4xlats. \u00c4r det sant eller inbillning? Och d\u00e5 menas &#8221;S-meterutslag&#8221; inte SNR, Signal to Noise Ratio.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r att unders\u00f6ka fenomenet startade jag en m\u00e4tserie med hj\u00e4lp av WSPR. En f\u00f6rklaring av WSPR finns i ett annat inl\u00e4gg, men i stora drag g\u00e5r det ut p\u00e5 att en station s\u00e4nder sin identitet med olika mellanrum och d\u00e4remellan lyssnar efter andra stationer. De h\u00f6rda stationerna loggas automatiskt med angivande av SNR.<\/p>\n<p>Egentligen vill vi ju ha den absoluta signalstyrkan och inte SNR. Jag har dock funnit att bakgrundsbruset hos mig inte varierar s\u00e5 mycket \u00f6ver dygnet p\u00e5 de h\u00f6gre banden fr\u00e5n 20 m och upp\u00e5t. Om man g\u00f6r det dj\u00e4rva antagandet att motsvarande g\u00e4ller f\u00f6r de flesta motstationerna s\u00e5 kan WSPR anv\u00e4ndas f\u00f6r att unders\u00f6ka reciprocitet i \u00f6verf\u00f6ringen.<\/p>\n<p>Typiskt bakgrundsbrus \u00f6ver dygnet:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-595\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-595\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet-300x209.jpg\" alt=\"Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet-768x535.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet-624x435.jpg 624w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Bakgrundsbrus-over-dygnet.jpg 819w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e4tningarna p\u00e5gick under n\u00e5gra m\u00e5nader i slutet av 2013 och b\u00f6rjan av 2014.<\/p>\n<p>Jag lyckades inte p\u00e5visa n\u00e5gon systematisk skillnad i utbredningsd\u00e4mpning, men d\u00e4remot relativt kortvariga skillnader beroende p\u00e5 riktning p\u00e5 upp till 10 dB.<\/p>\n<p>Ett exempel p\u00e5 en m\u00e4tserie mot Japan p\u00e5 17 m:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-543\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-543\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1-300x156.jpg\" alt=\"WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531\" width=\"300\" height=\"156\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1-300x156.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1-768x398.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-SNR-17m-JA2KCT-1024x531-1-624x324.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>N\u00e5gra m\u00e4tserier mot USA p\u00e5 20 m:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-538\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-538\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1-768x499.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-2526-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x665-1-624x405.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-533\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-533\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948-300x278.jpg\" alt=\"WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948\" width=\"300\" height=\"278\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948-300x278.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948-768x711.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.sm0brf.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/WSPR-2014-02-28-20m-WA3DNM-diagram-1024x948-624x578.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Man har tittat p\u00e5 fenomenet tidigare:<\/p>\n<p>Det har gjorts noggranna studier som visat p\u00e5 b\u00e5de l\u00e5ngvarig (timmar) och kortvarig<\/p>\n<p>icke-reciprocitet t ex av Glen Davis Falcon vid Georgia Institute of Technology November, I960 och1956 av <a href=\"http:\/\/ieeexplore.ieee.org\/search\/searchresult.jsp?searchWithin=p_Authors:.QT.Laver,%20F.J.M..QT.&amp;newsearch=true\">Laver, F.J.M.<\/a> ; <a href=\"http:\/\/ieeexplore.ieee.org\/search\/searchresult.jsp?searchWithin=p_Authors:.QT.Stanesby,%20H..QT.&amp;newsearch=true\">Stanesby<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/ieeexplore.ieee.org\/search\/searchresult.jsp?searchWithin=p_Authors:.QT.Stanesby,%20H..QT.&amp;newsearch=true\">, H.<\/a> vid \u201dPost Office IngeneeringDepartment\u201d UK:<\/p>\n<p>\u201d Tests have been carried out under carefully controlled conditions to see whether the attenuation of high-frequency signals sent over a given long-distance radio path differs according to the direction of transmission. The results obtained both across the North Atlantic and between Australia and the United Kingdom show that at times the loss in both directions is substantially the same, and that at other times the loss difference can rise to values of the order of 5 or 10 dB\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ibland upplever jag att det inte \u00e4r samma signalstyrka i b\u00e5da \u00e4ndar av en f\u00f6rbindelse. Det har till exempel varit vid kontakter med Japan p\u00e5 17 m d\u00e4r jag under en period, har f\u00e5tt flera S-enheter b\u00e4ttre rapporter \u00e4n vad jag kunnat ge. En stund senare har f\u00f6rh\u00e5llandena utj\u00e4mnats och mer rimliga rapporter har utv\u00e4xlats. 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